Two emergent leaders

So, if you are not familiar with the emergent church, let me give you a little synopsis. They are a false claim-to-be branch of the church that believes that the way Christianity has been "done" if you will is all wrong. They also believe that the theological foundations of salvation and Jesus Christ are wrong or false; they also are post-modernist in their views of the veracity of His Word.

Here is a video of one of the leaders in the movement; his name is Doug Pagitt, author of the book "A Christianity Worth Believing." We can only assume that the book gets much better than, but since we do not want to let our minds ponder any longer let us here from the man himself.




Mmmmm, wow, you can almost hear the snakes slithering in that one. First of all Mr. Pagitt, I do not know when you suddenly believed that God lost his sovereignty, but according to Revelation 1:8, Jesus calls himself the Alpha and Omega, Beginning and End. It takes a God (which mine is) who is able to see time as a whole and possesses the quality of omnipotence, omnipresence, and omniscience (which mine does) to be sovereign over all. I am sorry that you feel that God is nowhere to be found or that He does not fit the world any longer, but if you would have read the Scriptures he has clearly stated that He will never “leave us nor forsake us”. Matthew 28:20, along with laying out the Great Commission also gives us a very clear example of the fact that He is still with us, “’teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.’ Amen.” If you need even more proof God is still with us just read Psalm 139, it is all about how man cannot get outside of God’s reach.

What I comes down to is this, he believes that the Bible and the church are no longer relevant to the society we live in, and somehow God has misrepresented by the church for the past 2000 years. Which is funny since (for the most part) the God the church has been teaching is the Biblical one, then again I doubt this man has sat down and read the Bible lately.



I cannot forget granddaddy of them all Brian Mclaren, who does not think the church is good enough any longer.




O_O

Are you serious? When did “evangelicalism” become captive to the “religious right”? Last I checked people voted on what they BELIEVED, not what they were man handled into supporting. What do you mean “More and more of us are looking for new ways to live and practice our faith”? Seriously, I do not know if you have read Colossians 3, it instructs us pretty clearly on how we should and should not act. I do not need a “new way to practice my faith, I need to know what GOD says about how I should live and act, and you only get that through reading that leather bound book turned fancy, dust ridden coaster of yours called Bible.

Also, in the little video clip, Mr. Mclaren asked two questions:

1: What are the biggest problems destroying the world, what are the biggest global crisis?
2: What do the life and teachings of Jesus Christ have to say about these global crisis?


Let me answer these two questions for you.

What is the biggest problem destroying the world? SIN!!! It is sin, look Christ commands us to take care of the poor, and he does command us to help those stricken by tragedy. But if you help those who are facing these things but neglect to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and teach the repentance and remission of sins that is strictly taught in Luke 24:47. Than they are still going to go to hell and that is one of the CRUELIST things you can do to a person, to help their physical needs but never address the real life threatening issues; Jesus said we would always have the poor among us, so as much we may try, there will always be poor people in this world, what we need to give them is everlasting riches and not stuff that will fade away in the fire.

Two: What do the life and teachings of Jesus Christ have to say about these global crisis? (Sin)

Jesus said, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man comes to the Father except through me.” John 8:24 says “Therefore I said to you [speaking to the Pharisees] that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” Also in 1st Peter 1:18-21

“Knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest these last times for you who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.”



Ending this, Galatians 1:6-10 says, “I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.”

The Bible has been valid for every time in the world since its birth, from the Old Testament era, to the New Testament era, to the Dark Ages, to the Middle Ages and Renaissance, to the 1700’s and 1800’s, up until even now. It has been this generation that has felt the need to make Christianity more relevant, instead of asking God what to do we rely on what men say and what we think instead of relying on Scripture…